Review of WowWee Paper Jamz

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Mighty Mik
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Firmware dump might be nice, wouldn't that tell us what was in the blob? Bet that's how they get the songs in it... one board, many different models. What i was wondering was where to grab some kind of output to send to something like an Arduino (like a nano) and get it to work as a MIDI interface. Don't sell the drums short yet... the guitar can apperently tell which way you are strumming, so some kind of loudness might be possible on the drums? I like the idea of a tap interface drum pad MIDI controller. ( i know Korg has one but i like this layout better).

GWJax said:

Rudolph said: SCL and SDA imply an I2C bus. Wonder what snazzy things might be found in there? Cool I'm also really curious about the drum pad sensors. Are they just piezos?

AHHH Yes you know what these are :) both of the units have an I²C bus.. Yes I too wounder what we can do with these, like adding new music for one or even dumping the firmware. The drum pads are the same in all units. Capasitive Touch Sensor in a matrix like how your keyboard is attached. I wish they were piezos because we could then make noise out of pads.. Jax

Mighty Mik
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what is the 8 pin chip i see on the board?

GWJax
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Mighty Mik said: what is the 8 pin chip i see on the board?

Mik, the 8 pin chip you see on the drum set is a MTC19115. I'm not sure what this is right now and no datasheets are coming up on the web but I will continue to search for it.

 

Jax

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Aztekious said: This looks awesome, Aside from getting one for my son, I think im gonna have to pick one up myself! Anyone know if there available in Canada yet? I called Walmart, Sears, Zellers etc and they dont have a clue what im talking about, So im guessing not yet? even looked on E-bay but they are selling for $50 + shipping : /

Keep an eye out on this site. They have a ton of info about the PaperJamz and what stores have them. As for Canada they are coming soon. Hope this helps..

A big ouch when it comes to e-bay at $50 + shipping. I would wait to get one at these prices when you know that you can get them for $25 in the stores.

 

Jax

GWJax
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@Aztekious,

Try to buy one from Walgreens and see if you can have it shipped to Canada. The Online store will have them on the 15th but you can pre-order them and have it shipped to you. Go here to order: http://www.walgreens.com/search/results.jsp?No=0&Ntt=paperjamz

Jax

Aztekious
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Awesome, thanks for the tip!

elixircell
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OK. I've worked in surgery all my life and I'm now 42, but I am totally addicted to this guitar and will even carjack someone for the elusive drum kits.

What an awesome concept.

-DOC

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elixircell said: OK. I've worked in surgery all my life and I'm now 42, but I am totally addicted to this guitar and will even carjack someone for the elusive drum kits. What an awesome concept. -DOC

LMAO.... Carjacking someone for the drum kit and being a doctor as well.. Too funny Doc. and Welcome to our community. Hope you find everything you need here.  We too do surgery on the forums but it's on robots and we use screwdrivers and soldering irons along with part doners from old dead electronics to make them alive again :)

 

Jax

elixircell
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Thanks for the warm welcome, Jax!

I am currently modding the amp. I've put in real knobs I found (stole) off of old devices in my garage, old radios work great, and am looking for a suitable metal mesh screen for the front. Then, perhaps a few leds on the front for show (I might even look for the ones that light up with the sound) and an even better speaker, with its own power to REALLY jam. Maybe some wires coming out the back and then going back in, something like that. First, I plan to clearcoat the amps box to give it a more realistic look, though.

I also want to make the guitar into a real-looking one by adding some authentic depth by placing wood around the sides and giving it a new back (that part of the mod may go to a professional guitar maker, I'm thinking).

Sweeeet...!

-DOC

GWJax
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DOC Please post some pics of your mod or start a new thread about it so others can follow your progress and even make the mods themselves. It sound really cool what your doing with the amp keep it up..

Jax

elixircell
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Thanks... Will do as I get the time...!

-DOC

elixircell
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Oh, and everyone's disappointment with the drum kit is unwarranted. If the pads require a humans slight electrical charge and won't work with drumsticks... then I'll simply put a few small watch batteries into the drumsticks and wire them to the tips to get the effect I want.

-DOC

TikaC
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Welcome to our new members! :)

I can't seem to find the drum kits at our local Walgreens. They only had the guitars. I don't even know if it's there anymore. It's the 15th as I type this and I been kinda sick in bed the past couple days so I didn't get out. I tried to find them on Amazon.com today but no luck.

elixircell
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elixircell said: Oh, and everyone's disappointment with the drum kit is unwarranted. If the pads require a humans slight electrical charge and won't work with drumsticks... then I'll simply put a few small watch batteries into the drumsticks and wire them to the tips to get the effect I want. -DOC

I forgot my best mod, in a sleep-deprivation manner, but give me your feedback on this one everyone...;  I want to put actual strings on it, taut string (likely different gauges of fishing wire) that will probably have to lay directly on the Paper Jamz strum area, and out to the neck for a more impressive 'feel' when you play it.

 

I'm also trying to find a good Fender logo to place over the near-copyright infringement WowWee logo for additional authenticity, but may just end up downloading a gif or jpeg of a Fender image to just overlap the WowWee image with it, paste it on some heavy paper and glue it over.

 

I'll try to send images soon.  Oh, and mine didn't come with the painted on duct tape, so I just added some real duct tape of my own which makes it look like a really worn out amp...!

Kudos, for the idea...!

As soon as I get my new webcam up and working, I'll get some shots of everything over for everyone. to check out.

I ditched the idea of making the guitar larger as I like the flat guitar better, especially for its novel idea that makes it what it is.

Updates soon...

-DOC

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Doc the only problem that I see with putting fishing line on the guitar is that it might get in the way of you touching the pads.. Yet I like the idea of it. I have been doing some testing with adding an electrical input on the touch pads with out making any connections to the board and nothing I'm doing will trigger the pads except when I place a 9v battery case on the pads this does cause the pads to strike the cords.. Magnets as well do not work. I know if I attach a ground wire to the board then this does work with batteries but more testing needs to be done.

Jax

elixircell
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Hmmm... I was thinking of actually placing the strings onto the guitar in a permanent fashion so you can 'feel' your chords as you strum. As it is, one has to try to guess the chords until they are more proficient.

Kudos on testing the 9-volt and getting ahead of me... Definitely some more testing, but then, that's what modding is all about...!

-DOC

elixircell
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Hmmm... I was thinking of actually placing the strings onto the guitar in a permanent fashion so you can 'feel' your chords as you strum. As it is, one has to try to guess the chords until they are more proficient.

Kudos on testing the 9-volt and getting ahead of me... Definitely some more testing, but then, that's what modding is all about...!

-DOC

TikaC
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Hey guys! I had mentioned a few days back to a store clerk at Walgreens that I didn't see any drum sets. Well, today I went shopping and found they had two of them. One went along with the Stratocaster (sp?) Guitar I got so I got it! Hope to do a review video of it soon.

GWJax
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Good deal Tika!!!, Looking forward to seeing your video on the drums. I still have mind taken apart and sitting in front of me. ;)

Jax

TikaC
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LOL! Yeah. I haven't (believe it or not) taken apart any of mine yet.

Tim6
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Can find all these on amazon.com now

Any updates on kick pedal input for drums I have had no luck in finding this accessory.

Does anybody know if it is just 2 poles in foot pedal input (short 2 together to simulate pedal) or is it more complex ???

Thanks Tim

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Tim6 said: Can find all these on amazon.com now Any updates on kick pedal input for drums I have had no luck in finding this accessory. Does anybody know if it is just 2 poles in foot pedal input (short 2 together to simulate pedal) or is it more complex ??? Thanks Tim

I pulled it a part after looking at photos already on here :) thanks :)

 

It is a standard 3.2 mil stereo plug (3 pole) if you short the common pole to the left pole of the plug get kick drum sound if you short the common pole to the right pole of the plug you get a closed hi-hat sound. So just need a box with two momentary push buttons.

 

Keep you posted on how it goes :)

Levi
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Any updates on that momentary switch for the drum set? I can already jam out with just my fingers, but it would be too smooth to have foot pedal access too.

GWJax
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Levi said: Any updates on that momentary switch for the drum set? I can already jam out with just my fingers, but it would be too smooth to have foot pedal access too.

Levi, I'll start working on a simple pedal that one can make an will post a DIY thread on the subject. This will be a somewhat cool project to do.

 

I'll let you all know when I post the thread here.

Jax

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GWJax said:

Levi said: Any updates on that momentary switch for the drum set? I can already jam out with just my fingers, but it would be too smooth to have foot pedal access too.

Levi, I'll start working on a simple pedal that one can make an will post a DIY thread on the subject. This will be a somewhat cool project to do. I'll let you all know when I post the thread here. Jax

Sweet! I will be looking out for it. I think I might have some other musical equipment that I can use to make these switches (Boss switch pedals). Thanks!

MrScott
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By the by... saw Paper Jamz guitars in BigLots this week.
Kind of surprised to see them there so soon. That's usually the 2nd tier channel that typically gets product at the tail end of production.

TikaC
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Jax - I too can't wait to see your pedal mod. I have one of the drums and would like to try and make a pedal too. Would make some of the playability a lot easier.

Tim6
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Hey ya here's what I did using a lead with a 3.5mm stereo plug on one end and a pair of RCA connectors on the other, then fitting a mating RCA connector to a box (500mm x 300mm x 70 mm). I then connected 2 heavy duty momentary push buttons in parallel across the right channel of the RCA socket(this gives you a double kick pedal). Next was a third push button in parallel with a guitar effects foot switch across the left channel of the RCA socket - the push button works just like a normal Hi Hat pedal and the foot switch enables you to "lock down" the HI Hats just like a conventional Hi Hat quick release clutch (for playing closed Hi Hats and double kick at same - ie, for playing heavy metal or "Blue Monday" by New Order). I dont even bother with the one onboard speaker as the unit sounds sooooo much better plugged into the hifi. Will send pictures once i have neatened up the box and slapped a coat of paint on it!
regards Tim.

TikaC
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Hey, that's awesome! Can't wait to see how you did that. I can't figure out why they put it there but haven't yet made the foot switch in the first place. They haven't even mentioned it or shown it in their ad videos.

Levi
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Tim6 said: Hey ya here's what I did using a lead with a 3.5mm stereo plug on one end and a pair of RCA connectors on the other, then fitting a mating RCA connector to a box (500mm x 300mm x 70 mm). I then connected 2 heavy duty momentary push buttons in parallel across the right channel of the RCA socket(this gives you a double kick pedal). Next was a third push button in parallel with a guitar effects foot switch across the left channel of the RCA socket - the push button works just like a normal Hi Hat pedal and the foot switch enables you to "lock down" the HI Hats just like a conventional Hi Hat quick release clutch (for playing closed Hi Hats and double kick at same - ie, for playing heavy metal or "Blue Monday" by New Order). I dont even bother with the one onboard speaker as the unit sounds sooooo much better plugged into the hifi. Will send pictures once i have neatened up the box and slapped a coat of paint on it! regards Tim.

Dude, I am ITCHING to see that!!! Cannot wait.

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